The DOJ Blows One on Epstein
The File that Wouldn't Leave. A Witness Talks.
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Jeffrey Epstein’s former Palm Beach house manager, Alfredo Rodriguez, attempted to sell Epstein’s “little black book” in 2009. The sting operation was carried out by an undercover FBI agent posing as an associate of Brad Edwards, who was one of the lawyers suing Epstein on behalf of victims. Details of the sting include:
The Attempted Sale: Rodriguez, who was fired by Epstein, stole the contact list and tried to sell it for $50,000, calling it his “insurance”.
The Operation: Believing he was negotiating with the victims’ lawyer, Rodriguez met with the undercover FBI agent in a hotel room in Boca Raton, Florida.
The Arrest: The meeting concluded with Rodriguez handing over the book in exchange for cash and his subsequent arrest for obstruction of justice. You can review additional background on the sting through the Justice Department footage documented by CNN or review further details reported by TIME.
Video released on January 31 shows Epstein’s former Palm Beach house manager Alfredo Rodriguez trying to sell Epstein’s “black book” for $50,000 during an FBI sting in 2009, not knowing he was meeting an undercover agent. The 97-page book, made public in 2015, contained over 1,500 names linked to Epstein’s network.
Rodriguez worked for Epstein from 2004 to 2005. After being fired, he took Epstein’s black book, later calling it “insurance” because he feared Epstein might try to make him “disappear.” He was eventually arrested and charged with obstruction of justice for withholding evidence from federal investigators, and sentenced to 18 months in prison — a longer term than Epstein initially received. Rodriguez died in 2014.
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Pam Bondi took quite a beating over this. Today, the video is hard to find. That is intentional. The reason given is that the file exposes the identity of a law enforcement agent. The reason given.
Trump’s Department of Justice released some of the Epstein files, but they included material they did not want released. Mistakes were made.
Files were posted, then removed. Today’s find is one of those. Posted, removed, and discovered by looking for all the formats. It is the written record of a video recording, or .mov file. They forgot the copy at Roll Call.
EFTA00179446 is a comprehensive witness‑identification interview that maps out the human network surrounding Epstein’s Palm Beach property, with a particular emphasis on who had access to the Citrix‑based computer system that stored illegal images, who could testify about the presence of under‑age girls, and who might have helped erase or conceal evidence.
We owe epstein-data.com for the following analysis and, presumably, the Department of Justice for the files at the bottom of the analysis. Editing by Carol Conners. Research partner Xanthé 💛 @ Amor Fātī.
Based on the provided search results, EFTA00179446 is a 1.4-hour video and transcript that documents an interview or deposition involving individuals discussing the operations, digital evidence, and associates of Jeffrey Epstein.
The document describes a highly organized environment involving high-powered computing, specific recruitment networks, and a list of prominent individuals.
What the document is
A native video file (m4v) that runs 1 hour 24 minutes (≈ 5 018 seconds) and has been fully transcribed (≈ 6 067 words).
The transcript is a recorded interview (likely taken by law‑enforcement or a civil‑litigation team) in which the interviewee is asked to identify people, phone numbers, computers, and physical locations that were part of Jeffrey Epstein’s Palm Beach estate and related operations.
The interview repeatedly references “Citrix” (the remote‑access system used on Epstein’s computers), “Ghislaine Maxwell”, a domestic‑staff couple, a former Israeli prime minister, a magician, a model‑scout, and a number of other individuals who either worked for, visited, or were otherwise linked to Epstein’s network.
Below is a person‑by‑person breakdown of every named individual that appears in the transcript (pages 1‑9) together with the specific role or relevance that the interviewee attributes to them. All statements are taken verbatim from the searchable snippets; no inference beyond the text is added.
1. Jeffrey Epstein (the subject)
Referred to repeatedly as “Mr. Epstein” or simply “Epstein.”
The interviewee describes the computer infrastructure (water‑cooled server, Citrix access) that was used to download and store images of under‑age girls.
Mentions that Epstein’s staff (including the “domestic couple” and the “chef”) were present in the house when the material was accessed.
Citation: pages 1‑9 (e.g., “...the computer who was irradiated with water…download pictures…Epstein…”) – EFTA00179446.
2. Ghislaine Maxwell
Described as having an office “under the stairs next to the kitchen” in the main house.
The interviewee says Maxwell’s phone numbers and London address appear in the list of contacts that were subpoenaed.
Citation: page 5 – EFTA00179446.
3. Baraki Hood (spelled “Baraki Hood” in the transcript)
Identified as a former Prime Minister of Israel who was escorted by Secret Service personnel when traveling on a private jet that also carried girls.
The interviewee notes the interviewee’s knowledge that “Mr. Baraki … will fly you to New York, and some of the girls came along the way.”
Citation: page 7 – EFTA00179446.
4. Jean‑Luc Brunel
Described as “a scout for young females carrying models.”
The interviewee supplies a phone number for Brunel and says he is a potential witness who could be subpoenaed.
Citation: page 7 – EFTA00179446.
5. David Copperfield
Referred to as “a magician” who performed tricks in the house.
The interviewee notes that if subpoenaed, Copperfield would likely say the girls were not naked when he was there.
Citation: page 7 – EFTA00179446.
6. Eva Anderson (also “Eva Dubin” in the snippet)
Described as “former model and mother of the naked picture.”
A phone number is given; the interviewee says she is a potential witness.
Citation: page 7 – EFTA00179446.
7. David Cook
Identified as “the chef in Palm Beach.”
The interviewee says they have lost contact with him but he is listed among the people to be subpoenaed.
Citation: page 7 – EFTA00179446.
8. Alan Deshawitz
Mentioned only by name in a list of contacts; no role is described beyond being a phone‑number entry.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
9. Eric Gani
Identified as “the lawyer.”
The interviewee says Gani stayed in the staff house and helped fix problems, sometimes with a girl present.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
10. John Cassidy
Described as a contractor who was allowed to stay on Epstein’s property.
The interviewee says hiring him would result in immediate termination, indicating his high‑security status.
Citation: page 5 – EFTA00179446.
11. Tom Sawyer
Mentioned as the person who “fixed the phones.”
No further detail is given.
Citation: page 6 – EFTA00179446.
12. Joe Piscopo (mis‑identified) Ed. note: Not Joe.
The interviewee initially thinks the name refers to the actor, then corrects that it is “the neighbor” who saw a lot of activity at the house.
No further role is provided.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
13. Alfredo (surname not given)
Referred to as “the crazy naked girl” (likely a nickname for a staff member or a frequent visitor).
The interviewee says Alfredo is still employed and that three witnesses can corroborate his presence.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
14. Senator George Mitchell
Listed among the contacts; no description of involvement is given.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
15. Michael and Sally (last name not given)
Mentioned in the context of an email address used to reach a Palm Beach manager (earthlink.net).
The interviewee says eight people preceded them in the role, implying a chain of staff.
Citation: page 6 – EFTA00179446.
16. Luella
Identified as “the assistant.”
The interviewee says Luella’s email was used to contact the Palm Beach manager.
Citation: page 6 – EFTA00179446.
17. Brad (surname not given)
The interview opens with “Brad, long time?” and later the interviewee says “I have questions from Brad I need to ask you.”
Brad appears to be the interviewer or a senior investigator directing the line of questioning.
Citation: page 1 – EFTA00179446.
18. “the lady, lawyer” sitting next to Brad
The interviewee says “This lady, lawyer, who was on my left next to Brad, she asked me if I know who has Citrix….”
She is the legal counsel who is steering the interview toward technical evidence (Citrix access).
Citation: page 1 – EFTA00179446.
19. “the wife” of the interviewee
Mentioned when the interviewee says “my wife came to Palm Beach and I said, ‘you want to see something?’” and then shows her pictures from the computers.
No surname is given.
Citation: page 8 – EFTA00179446.
20. Vicky / Virginia (two separate names appear)
The interviewee points to “Vicky, Vicky. And there’s a Virginia here.” while reviewing a list of contacts that includes parents’ phone numbers for very young girls.
Their exact role is not clarified beyond being contacts in the phone‑number list.
Citation: page 8 – EFTA00179446.
21. “the girl who cleaned the pool”
Referred to as a witness who told the interviewee that “Alfredo, I’m coming tomorrow.”
No name is provided.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
22. “the domestic managing couple for Ghislaine Maxwell – Joseph and Florina”
The interviewee says “Joseph and Florina were a domestic managing couple for Ghislaine Maxwell… they’re probably still there. They’re a couple of Filipinos.”
This couple is presented as staff who lived on‑site and handled Maxwell’s day‑to‑day needs.
Citation: page 2 – EFTA00179446.
23. “the person who fixed the Citrix systems – lives in Ohio”
The interviewee says “the guy that fixed the Citrix systems lives in Ohio. I’m going to him.”
No name is given, but the person is identified as the technical specialist responsible for erasing data on the servers.
Citation: page 2 – EFTA00179446.
24. “the neighbor who saw a lot of things – Mike Sitrick? (not named)”
The interviewee mentions a neighbor who “saw me doing a lot of things” and who flew to the island with Epstein once.
The name is not given; the description is used to illustrate that outside observers were aware of activity.
Citation: page 4 – EFTA00179446.
How the people connect to EFTA00179446
Central hub: The interview is focused on the Palm Beach estate (the “main house” and the “staff house”). All named individuals are linked to that location either as employees, visitors, or technical support.
Technical chain:
Citrix is repeatedly mentioned as the remote‑access platform that allowed the interviewee (and presumably others) to view the computer‑stored images of under‑age girls.
The Ohio‑based Citrix technician is identified as the person who erased those images (“he erased all those im…”) – EFTA00179446 page 5.
Legal/ investigative chain:
Brad and the lawyer sitting next to him are the interviewers directing the line of questioning, specifically asking about Citrix access and phone‑number logs.
The lawyer’s request (“Anyone having access to Citrix? Go get the documents. Bring them in here. We’re going to lay them out on the table.”) shows the investigative goal: to collect every Citrix‑related document and phone‑number list for potential subpoenas.
Operational chain:
Maxwell’s office under the stairs, the domestic couple (Joseph & Florina), and the chef (David Cook) illustrate the day‑to‑day staff who could have witnessed or facilitated the transfer of illicit material.
John Cassidy, Tom Sawyer, and Alfredo represent contractors and maintenance staff who had physical access to the house and its telecommunications infrastructure.
High‑profile visitors:
Baraki Hood (former Israeli prime minister) and David Copperfield are cited as high‑profile guests whose presence could corroborate the scale and secrecy of the operations.
Jean‑Luc Brunel and Eva Anderson are identified as model‑industry contacts who could confirm the recruitment pipeline.
(All citations refer to the same EFTA00179446 video transcript; page numbers correspond to the individual “Document Pages” entries shown in the search results.)
Why this matters for further research
Citrix access is the technical linchpin; anyone who maintained, repaired, or erased Citrix data (the Ohio technician, Tom Sawyer, John Cassidy) is a critical target for subpoenas.
Domestic staff (Joseph & Florina, Eric Gani, the chef, the pool‑cleaner) are likely to have first‑hand knowledge of daily routines and could corroborate the presence of under‑age girls.
High‑profile visitors (Baraki Hood, David Copperfield, Jean‑Luc Brunel) provide independent verification that the estate was used for activities beyond ordinary social gatherings.
The lawyer next to Brad explicitly asks for all Citrix‑related documents, indicating that the investigative team is already building a paper‑trail of electronic evidence.
The Transcript is the real story. TRIGGER WARNING.
Transcribed from the audio:
Absolutely. Absolutely. You have a friend right out here? Yeah, he’s in the car. Okay. I just want to talk to you, though. No, no, no. He’s not going to come in. Okay. All right. Let me grab him. I’ll show you. Brad, long time? Yeah. You know, I’ve done some work on him. He’s not my... Very, very sensitive and crucial information that he wouldn’t get otherwise. That’s it. I’ll let you count it when we’re all done. Okay. Okay. So I just want to... This lady, lawyer, who was on my left next to Brad, she asked me if I know who has Citrix, all these properties all over the world. Anyone having access to Citrix? Go get the documents. Bring them in here. We’re going to lay them out on the table. We’re going to look at everything. Okay. I’ve got questions from Brad I need to ask you. Okay. That way you don’t ever have to worry about meeting Brad again, about the problem with Brad again. All right. You know, we’ll get that straight away. Okay. The garden that we saw, and we looked the other way. Because once the house, we would find condoms on very rare, but two hours of... But this is the people that I couldn’t save in front of the camera. I know because I have these documents at home. He doesn’t know this. Where exactly did you find that? This was in my desk. I have an Epstein-only garage in New Mexico, the islands. Provide for my house. I have a desk there. This and I have a book, a pilot. I have it there. And also my... It’s a power failure. He was very organized. I’ll let you keep that and get it. Because one day... I took the... There were two suburbans, identicals, for the staff. One had OnStar. The other one didn’t have it or something. Epstein said, oh, Alfredo, you took the one I like. And he used the excuse because that... Whatever it is. But that is that when they show me in the... When I was subpoenaed with Brad, they showed a statement, bank statements with Maxine. I said, Alfredo, get me 30. He was already involved with this. After the Palm Beach Police Department said we couldn’t find anything about Epstein. Of course, Palm Beach was bought out or something. FBI got involved because these girls, they came from out of state, from out of the country. So FBI got involved. So I saw them both. Palm Beach Police Department, they asked me to subpoena. And I said, how did it work? Yes, but they don’t have nothing of it. Now, you were interviewed by the FBI? Yeah. And I remember you telling that on the phone. How come you didn’t tell them about that? Because they didn’t ask me. Do you have any phone numbers? So you lied to them, essentially. Well, yeah, because my wife told me, I said, Alfredo, why don’t you say to Brad? We are... Right now... Now, let me explain this. We were just about to lose the house in Miami. And I said to Brad, I said, help me. And I provided with the keys. Why can’t you provide me? I said, yes, I do. Help me out. And this is where we can live. The only reason I’m asking these questions is not because I’m curious, by any means. It’s, I have to verify that that’s a lot of money. The money that I’m giving you, that this stuff is real. And you didn’t just go into a phone book and make up a bunch of names. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not that I don’t trust you. No. But my job is to vet out any sort of... Well, this... No, I don’t need... Okay, but anyway, let me go on and you will see how deep is this, okay? Yeah. Okay, so we have Jean-Luc Brunel. So, and here I have another thing. Her Highness Duchess of York, personal friend of Epstein. All the time, it’s Jeff in the house. I don’t think she was involved. Look who called to the house. It’s in the papers with my signature, okay? Okay. All right. We’ll see a lot of important people here, but let me just show you this. Personal secretary of Epstein. Hairdressing New York, emails, all of this was asking, was, they asked me, you know... Ghislaine Maxwell was his former companion. A very powerful lady from England. She would go to the former eastern countries in Europe and find girls for Epstein. And I knew that because I went with my wife. They used to have a computer so powerful, Paul. They used to have a water radiator. To cool the computer. Because they used to download pictures like that so fast. Girls, she has nice breasts, she has this and that. You saw that stuff? Yeah. On the computer? Yeah. Pictures of the girls? Mm-hmm. I did stuff like that? Yeah, I testified that. You testified that already? Yeah, I did. Okay. And Brad knows about it. But I couldn’t prove that. That’s why they need the guy that fixed the Citrix systems. He lives in Ohio. I’m going to him. Okay? Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay. They asked me if I know, if I knew. The guys who ran his state in Manhattan. I said, I know it’s Joseph and Florina. I don’t remember this. Here. Joseph and Florina were a domestic managing couple for Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay. You can ask them. They’re probably there. They’re still there. They’re a couple of Filipinos. Okay. Massage, California. I didn’t personally knew that this girl was coming from California. These are the numbers. Okay? I’m different. Those are always, those are California numbers? A lot of these are just... No. No, no, no. Of course. Of course. But this is, you have to think about this. This information is only for the, for Epstein, his associates, very close associates. Right. So those are mostly underage girls, those numbers? They were very young. Let me, let me, let me, you, you got to know this. You have to know this. My wife and I, we own a, we used to own a small coffee shop, Mama and Pa Operation. And we wanted to buy the property. Because at that time, they were asking $300,000 conversion. So I, I show the papers to Mr. Epstein for, to help me. I said, Mr. Epstein, can you help me? You know anybody that can give me money? And he said, call this person. So I called this person, beautiful girl, 28 years old. And I said, did Jeff come down? Of course, he was very eager to see him. So he, in no time, he showed up in the mansion. I didn’t, but I’m going to throw him out. So I escorted him to the outside of the house. And we sat on the courtyard, had a drink. And she told me, Alfredo, we don’t need your social. Security, but to run your record. Okay, so we met for 10, 15 minutes. I was escorting out. And he saw her. And he said, hey, let’s say, I don’t know, Courtney or whatever. Hi, Jeffrey. Boom, they hugged. Okay, bye. Thank you. She goes. Mr. Epstein calls me. Alfredo, come to my office, please. How did you dare to bring her to my house? Mr. Epstein, you gave me the number. Yeah, I didn’t tell you. I don’t want to see her again. Because at 22 years old and on, he doesn’t want any girls. He’s diseased. He’s sick. So you didn’t mean the fact that she was there because she was in the boat. Yes, yes, exactly. Gotcha. So all the girls, all we used to have in the refrigerator was ice cream for the girls. Cereal and skim milk. Okay, and these are not David the chef. They are everybody in the house. Now, of course, I was the boss, so I have to know these things. Sure. Okay? So, Massage Paris, some of these, they were in the house in Town Beach, okay? But there’s, the lawyers, they want to see connection between these phone numbers and some of these girls that they’re suing because they find these numbers, the girls suing. They will say, oh my God, they put one and two, okay? Okay. Alberto Pinto is one of the most famous architects in the world. He designed his house in Paris. Call me all the time. All these numbers, very important. People. Valcon Patrin, he was my colleague, house manager of the property in Paris. They asked me that question in the subpoena. I didn’t have it. There it is. Okay? Let me go on. Sorry, I’m kind of nervous. No, don’t be nervous. We’re going to take our time and go through this one thing at a time. All right. Another thing Brad wants to know, Massage in the Island. Little San James. In the island? Yeah. By Google, it’s called Little San James. But he renamed the island Little San Jeff because it’s Jeffrey Epstein. Massage Island. I don’t know if any of these girls, they came. It’s got guys on there, too, huh? Yeah, but they don’t. You mean like boys, too, or just girls? No, I never saw guys here. But probably in some other places, probably used male. Okay? Now, in Manhattan, when any of the employees, females or males, were supposed to stay for business, he owned a building. Apartment building, empty, only for his models. There it is. I put apartment on this, my handwriting, okay? For his models, you mean the girls that he... Exactly. He used to stay there and her friends. And he, the way he operated is like a... young looking, so he would be the young looking... I mean, younger girls will be comfortable with... versus a 50-year, 55-year-old guy. Gotcha. But they used to stay in that apartment. All the amenities, he used to take them and entertain them in the best restaurants, a real old, whatever, after he signed them. Very expensive, okay? Any mother of the kid that everybody asked me, who is this kid? There is a girl in the second floor, she’s showing me a naked chick. And he says, I don’t know. He was the grandfather of a grand... What do you say? Padrino? Grandfather? No, no, no. It’s like... Godfather? Godfather. He’s the godfather of the... So he has these several pictures and everybody’s disgusted because they think that this guy is using his own kids to use pornography inside the house. Eva... Swedish, very tall, she’s in her mid-40s. She’s still very attractive, married to a millionaire. She used to be in the house, so this is the mother, former mother, and the mother of the kid. Okay? Ehud Barak. I took him... What’s that? Former Prime Minister of Israel. He flew in a Gulfstream 3. The Secret Service was there a couple of nights. And I gotta tell you this. It was one of Epstein’s girlfriend. He said, take Miami and you kept the Mercedes for the weekend. Very good, Mr. Epstein, thank you. So he took off. He takes off and the Secret Service, they were all attracted by the girl. So I said, I’ll open the road for you. So we came 95 miles an hour from Palm Beach. Miami. That type of things. You know, that was normal. I mean, if by that then, I would say to somebody, I’m doing this, I say, yeah, yeah, sure, you’re a liar. Right. It was, I mean, fantastic things. Only because the girls. So Ehud Barak, very important guy. Here’s another one. Michelle Campos was a secretary that he was this, what do you say, this grunter? Because he was fired for some other reason. You can have a witness. She will testify. I very, very, I put fired secretary. What does she know about? Oh, she knows everything. She’s, Epstein has a personal secretary. He used to have some s***. But the secretary that knows everything, the big picture, she’s still s*** on Mr. Epstein. Okay? So if you call her, she will say, well, you know. Leon Black used to call the house. The owner of the whole management. Big, big, lot of money. Okay. Alan Dershowitz. They asked me, do you know? Mr. Dershowitz, yes, he was in the house. What kind of, he drinked wine. Where did he sit? By the pool with the girl. Do you know her phone number? No. I know it. He said. Who is this? In court, in the deposition. Oh, okay. Harry Sessions. Yeah. Okay. The lady, there was a lady. She asked me, she was very interesting about Dershowitz. And I said, I don’t know. Because that particular moment, I have to look for the reference to see, you know. But anyway, here it is. I have his card, too. He was at the house several times. Do you ever see these people doing anything bad at the house? No, Dershowitz. Because let’s say he used to go and take the sun, and he has a glass of wine, the sun. And upstairs, it was hunky-punky. He was, to be honest with you, I’ve never seen him upset. All these things. Around the pool, they were naked or topless. Sometimes completely naked. These young girls? Yeah. You saw that with your own eyes? Oh, yeah. I saw that, too. And everybody knows the neighbors, you know. Right. I have, I’m going to give you a number for Joe Piscopo. He’s a, Joe, no, Joe. Piscopo? No, no, it’s not, no, no. That’s an actor, no. His name, the neighbor, he saw me doing a lot of things. Alfredo, again, the crazy naked girl. He’s still employed. I have three f***ing witnesses. I have it here. The girl who used to come to the house and clean the pool, she said, Alfredo, I’m coming tomorrow. What happened? The whole naked, Alfredo, you know. So, he was. Yeah. So, I’ll employ him. Yeah, exactly. Now, again, in Palm Beach, he’s not the only one doing this, but he was more than that, you know. Alan Deshawitz, Jeffrey Epstein, portables, all the phone numbers, his brother, okay, Eric Gani, he’s the lawyer. He used to stay in my house, in the staff house. He was there for fixing problems, sometimes a girl and this and that. He works with John Luke, also recruiting. I put the arrows of the phone that I remember. And some are here. They are, they know, I know those numbers when they call to the house, okay. So, it’s a good reference there. Okay. Senator George Mitchell, okay, every day. He’s, Epstein is Democrat, so he was asking for money all the time. Now, this is a very important one. Leslie Wexner, he was Jeffrey Epstein’s boss. He owns the Limited, Victoria’s Secret, big bucks. Right. Three times more than Epstein’s. Wow. And any property, this thing in Ohio, I used to call for my insurance, New Albany, Ohio. They asked me about the thing, and I said, well, I didn’t know. There it is, address, phone number. When you say they, you’ve got to clarify, was this the lawyers? The lawyers, the FBI, the police. No, no, no, the FBI didn’t know nothing. Nothing. The FBI just went through the files of the police department, and they didn’t subpoena me. We sit down in a coffee shop in Palm Beach, and we sit down there in a suit and tie, and a gentleman and a lady, college graduate, super educated people. Unbelievable, they were. I couldn’t, if they didn’t tell you, they don’t show you the ID, you cannot tell the FBI guys. Young guys, good looking, cool. So they asked me the same thing. How long did you work there? And I said, well, you’re asking the same questions of police, but Miami, I mean, police, Palm Beach Police Department. And they said to me, well, now, Alfredo, this is in our hands because it’s beyond state borders, you know, because he knows you. So he was traveling. Exactly, because he brings her from Paris, from the island. As a matter of fact, I used to go to the international terminal when they came from the island instead of the other jet aviation. So there it is. Okay. But you had this book. All the time. The whole time. I was supposed to have. Let’s say I’m on the road. This was my Bible, you know, because I don’t have the computer with me. Okay. How come they didn’t take that away from you when they were burning all these books? One Sunday, when I, my last time I was there, Mrs. Maxwell just bought a new Mercedes. Alfredo, can you take me that Mercedes? Brand new. By two, it was 66, 65. Can you take me to, take it to Miami to the private aviation on Northwest 36? Yeah, no problem, man. And thank you, blah, blah, blah. They were trying to be in good terms with me because, you know, they want to not talk too much. So I took a couple of these with me. You know, I said, there were so many. There were so many, but they all, you know, they’re just there. Yeah, they’re, they’re, they’re, now here I go to the main thing. This is the guy, the computer guy that knows Citrix. He used to fly in F, F teams or private or the commercial and fix the computers. Okay. Tim Newcomb. Is this the guy that raised the hard drives? This is the guy. Okay. Okay. Nobody else was supposed to touch those. Those computers, they’ll have triple firewalls and the phone company also have a special guy. I’m going to tell you who it was. I mean, the phone company at that time was, it’s not Bell, it’s a, it’s a small company, but he was very particular of nobody else. I used to have the people and they were in the, filling this page, the contractors who was allowed to stay on Epson’s property. John Cassidy, AC, and so on, you know. Yeah. If you hire somebody, they, I would be fired in two seconds. But back to the computers, I was talking about this. Yeah. Did you ever see anything on those computers? Anything, any images of girls or? Exactly. I saw it. You saw it? Remember I told you there was, Ghislaine Maxwell had a, an office under the stairs next to the kitchen. There was stairs, the computer who was irradiated with water. First time in my life I saw that to keep it cool because they used to download pictures like this. Just like that. What kind of pictures? Naked, naked girls from all, from Sweden, from Romania, from Czechoslovakia, from Brazil, from Colombia. All minors, all young girls? Very young, very young. Like when you say very young, how young are you talking? 16, 17, the teenagers, they have braces, most of them. Younger, younger than that though? Yeah, yeah. Okay. And this, and this guy from Citrix, he erased all those images. I assume, I’m assuming. You’re assuming? Yeah, because. Were you there when you came and did it? No, that was after my time. Okay. But this lady attorney asked me, do you know who was the, who’s the guy fixing the computers? And I said, I don’t remember his name. But he said, yeah, he’s labeled here. Okay? Yeah. So I’m, it spins every time I go. So I have information of real. It’s not, it’s going to take me a few minutes. Here at Citrix was the last name you had. Yeah, exactly, where it’s Citrix. Eric Gany, George Mitchell. Okay, Citrix, okay. It’s labeled right there. Okay. It’s the name of the architect. He was in the house. He knew a lot of things about the house. He can be subpoenaed. And he was with me all the time. That’s a simple guy, but you know. Right. Yeah. Okay. And Caroline Stark, she used to call to the house. She was friend with some very young friends. I don’t know what’s their role, but I just happened to, when I was looking through this book, and I said, wait a minute, I took messages from so and so. They said friend of Caroline. Caroline Stark, and underneath here it says Krista’s friend. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I’m pretty sure she can be very important. Of course Donald Trump, I know they subpoena him. Larry Vesoskiy was chief pilot. Super nice guy. I’m sorry to get in between this. But he knew a lot of things. He would buy cars for Epstein. Sometimes in the absence of Epstein, his Allegro bring to Suburbans and more Mercedes. I’m going to close the 727 inside the hangar. We’re going to put a red carpet with the coordinator. That type of thing. Super guy, he lives in San Francisco. Now, I know that they subpoenaed him and I said, we didn’t know the ages and this and that, but, okay, there it is. Abigail Wesner, Leslie Wesner’s wife. Okay, all his numbers, all these numbers, they were, I’m pretty sure they were recorded in some way because he used to call on us every day. Very powerful people, baby. Here’s in, I don’t know, Colorado, London, Georgia. You know, this address is where they filmed Gone with the Wind. Oh, really? Yeah, he bought that mansion. Leslie Wesner, The Limited, Inc. This is in Columbus, right? I don’t have my glasses. White House, this is the real White House in Pennsylvania Avenue. Okay. Jeffrey Epstein’s in New York. Okay, all his phone numbers. Okay. These persons, they used to call constantly. I don’t know what. They were in the inner circle. They were doing dirty work for him. So, I highlight those things for him, for Brad. Lynn Fontanilla and Jojo Fontanilla, another couple from the Philippines. They run the house for Epstein. Okay. Okay. The one in New York? Yeah, and it says here, AKA, also known as Rosalyn and Luciano. Okay. Okay. So, I’m going to show you the house. Okay. Tom Sawyer had, he fixed the phones. Nobody else. Telephones, Barbara’s wife. Okay. Gotcha. Massach, United Kingdom. Again, this is a different house, but a different country, but I’m pretty sure some of these, they will find connections with the girls. Ghislaine Maxwell, phone numbers and address in London. Okay. Palm Beach, 140, and I have more here. All these girls. 60% of these phones are in the lawsuits right now. So, it’s very, if you show this in court, you know, I don’t know if they’re going to. 60% are, so there’s 40. Yeah. You say 40% of those numbers are unknown to. Yeah. The police or to. Yeah. Got you. Okay. And all these numbers, one way, at least twice, they contact El Brillo way. If you subpoena the records, you will put one on one. They call for, you know, plus my taking the signature. Sure. Sure. A message and say, well, you’ve been in the house. It’s hard to deny that. Okay. This was my private phone number. Okay. I could have heard of this. And Luella was my assistant. And this is the email that all the email used to get to this Palm Beach manager at earthlink.net. Okay. Michael and Sally . Eight people before me. There were a lot of people in and out because it requires a special kind of people to. Okay. Mike . He’s the neighbor. He says El Brillo neighbor. He knows a lot of things. He saw me on the street. We used to talk constantly. He used to come to the house. He flew to the island with Epstein one time to help over there. So, all right. Alan . Landscape architect. He was in the house, but, you know, again, critical witness. Jeffrey . Sorrow Ranch. This is in New Mexico. This is the biggest ranch in New Mexico. Okay. Mike . He was related to Bill Richards, governor of New Mexico. Okay. So, Massachusetts, New Mexico. Jeffrey . Those are all girls from New Mexico? Mike . These are, yeah. All of these. Jeffrey . Those are the girls’ numbers or these are girls’ numbers? Mike . No. All of these to here. Jeffrey . Okay. Mike . This is, oh, yeah, there’s more here. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. Now, I don’t know this because I never interacted with New Mexico. Okay. Mike . Okay. Jerome, this was my, I used to pay him. He was the gardener. He said, where’s the gardener? He’s a black guy from Haiti. You know, laid back, but, you know, asking, he would say the truth. He’s a Christian guy. Okay. Now, this is notes that I took from my notes, little things that they were attached. Some of these, they were in the, they asked me if I know this. Sherry Lynch . Where did you get these names and numbers from? Mike . I used to have loose papers. You know, sometimes notes to myself. . I used to have a safe with $30,000, $40,000 at all moments, at all. Okay. A handgun that was to be in Epstein’s house when he’s in the house. When he flies away, put it back into the safe. And these type of things. You know, I used to handle cash account, checking account, and the credit card for the gas for all these vehicles. Money was like nothing, Paul. I’d rather get me $30,000, go to the bank and see the envelope in the trash, but nothing. Jeffrey . Unreal. Was that the same thing? Mike . Okay, no. This is, okay, this is something. This lady attorney asked me if I know his email addresses, and here they are. Jeffrey at Minespring.com in Palm Beach. Gproject at Yahoo.com in New York. Solar Ranch at AOL.com in New Mexico. Tim Newcomb, Citrix System Programmer in-house. This is, I put it here. . Charlie Palmer. He used to be a chef in New York. He used to come in the house, and he knows about his. He used to pin at this guy. He knows what’s going on in the house. Joe Pagano is a chef also in Aspen. He used to go and cook for him. Now, this is another one. Christopher is a French guy. He used to work in jet aviation. And whenever I needed some extra people moving cars, he was, he was always available. He wanted to have my job, so he was much, two, three years before me, so he knew a lot of things. Mike . Gotcha. Jeffrey . Secret Service Personnel Escorting Mr. Baraki Hood. Former Prime Minister of Israel. Okay. He used to fly on jet planes. I don’t know those is Secret Service, but I’m pretty sure they can say, we’re planning Pound Beach and such, and not . What are on that plane? How is that valuable? Because here, he says, Mr. Baraki, I’ll fly you to New York, and some of the girls came along the way. Very private plane. . Yeah. Okay. So, you’re thinking about a former head of state. . You can bring this guy down at no time. All right. What else is there? Jean-Luc Brunel, a scout for young females carrying models. This is a phone number that I don’t think is in the book. David Copperfield, a magician, this phone number. What’s up with that? He was in the house performing tricks. And if you subpoena him, he will say, well, they were his age or not. I’m pretty sure he’s an important witness. Now, they were not naked when he was there, but I served him dinner, you know. Eva Anderson, former model and mother of the naked picture. It’s Eva Dubin that’s married to Anderson. This is the phone number. David Cook, I lost contact with him. He was the chef in Palm Beach. They used to fly with the Epstein when I was in Palm Beach, 2004, 2005. Witnessed, interacted, and chatted daily with underage girls. This I compiled for Brad. So that’s pretty much everything. This is it. All right, I just have a couple questions I need to go over from Brad. Just to reiterate, how did you know what was going on with the girls? You just, you see them naked in the house, or? Well, at first, the activity starts with a phone call. Usually it was the ones at Alfredo. And they were going to be three girls. And he called Joanne, I need two massage tables. So I said, yeah. It was collapsible. So we used to run, put, and then disappear. Because everything was supposed to be done, but we were not supposed to be seen in second floor. And when they leave, they used to go to comedy shops or ice cream parlors or movies. A lot of movies. Because they were babies. Ice cream and comedy and movies. Nothing else in the house. And actually, they went to anybody else staying in the house. And that, I found that this is kind of a trick for him. So when they leave, we used to know that the disarray, the vibrators, creamers on the floor, you know there’s no massage there, you know? I mean, sex toys, all that. So you used to see the sex toys and stuff like that? Yeah. All right, because I read something in some of the police reports that Brad had in the files. You were in charge of cleaning some of these sex toys for him? Yeah. Let me find these cleaners, okay? Francis Padron. Okay. He was in the house years before me. And when Epstein would leave the house, I would call him. He would come with an army of cleaners from top to bottom. And they would find condoms. They would find, you know, this and other people. After having these girls in the house? Yeah. Okay. I’m sorry, what was your question? I just had a little list of questions here. Just to correlate with this information that you’re giving me. How long ago was it that you were interviewed when you were subpoenaed? When was that? Okay, the first time I was subpoenaed was from Palm Beach Police Department, Palm Beach Court. That was 2006, I think. All right. So what about the FBI? The FBI, a year after that. A year after that? Yeah. I was working for Mrs. John Hammond. And you told me about the computer that had all the images on it. You said that was downstairs. Downstairs, yeah. Next to the kitchen. Next to the kitchen. Yeah. And I was working in the police officer’s office. Was that password protected? So you could just go on there and see whatever? Yeah. I just turned it on and, you know. And Epstein would sit at that computer? Yeah. And actually, yes. You know why I went to that computer? It’s not because I was trying, I did something where I’m not supposed to. I lost, we lost power. And my computer was a shitty one, excuse me, in my, in the staff house. So I went to the main house, I needed to send some information after the hurricane or something. He was, I had a camera, take the camera, download it and send the camera to Mr. Epstein, wherever he was. So this computer was working. And one day, my wife came to Palm Beach and I said, you want to see something? And, you know, we saw the pictures, yeah, from. Did you ever see any email addresses for the girls? They are crawling in those computers. If they haven’t been wiped out by that guy, right? Who was? Something interesting here. Vicky, Vicky. And there’s a Virginia here. And his parents. Now some, can you look, mom and parents? Yeah. These are very young girls. Why you have your parents’ phone number next to it? You circle that phone, really? Yeah. I just put that, that type of thing highlighted, but I, you will see that why it’s. Circle it for me, though, so I know. So much stuff you have. There you go. And there’s another one. You will see parents there. You, you, you come to think, he, mom, Amber, mom. And they, they tell mom, I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. I’m in school. Now, this is another one. I went to the house at 8.30 one night. I was coming from public with my groceries, and I saw a shitty car on the driveway, and I called the police. I went over there and I, we came to the police and said, hello, . Can I see some ID? And there’s a, I didn’t know, there was a report and the police they said, these people are not Kermasun. And they’re getting, and they’re not Kermasun. And they’re, they’re, they’re not Kermasun. Well, I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I didn’t know. They wrote a report, and the police said these people are not the Masooms, and they are young people trying to get sex. And it says Carolina house. So it was already listed on Epstein’s private book. Gotcha. Okay. Let’s see if there’s another. Virginia here. What’s the last name you said? If you don’t know, talk here. No, no, no. It doesn’t ring a bell. I’m sorry. The only other question I have for you is, do you know if Epstein had any hidden cameras in the house? Yes. He did? Yeah. Where were the hidden cameras at? One in the garage, and one, this is his bed, and he used to have an alarm clock, and it was always the shutters that were closed. He was crazy about somebody peeking. And this would project the time on the wall at night, and in there was a camera. And what did he do with the videos? We don’t know. No? No. But how did you know he had a video camera there? I saw it on the internet. The police discovered those cameras. Oh, really? But you don’t know where any of that stuff would be or anything? You know, if you contact the Citrix guy, you can subpoena him, and he cannot lie. Because there’s some records that he will stay, even if you erase them. I know a computer expert will say there’s somewhere in the memory you can retrieve, hopefully, you know? Okay. And if he will tell the truth, he will tell the truth. Okay. And he will say, yes, I was supposed to be doing this, this, and that. Anything else you think might be helpful that you didn’t tell anybody about before? You know, call me. Okay? You know my phone number. But I will aid to be in court, or they say, is this your handwriting, please? You know, I don’t know who’s going to handle this, but, you know, it doesn’t have my name. It’s my writing, but, you know, just, I just want to put this behind it, and let’s help each other. All right, let me get, let me get you your money, buddy. Okay, here. Yeah, just leave it right there for now. I’m going to get you your money. You can count it if you want. I might as well give you this bag to take with you. You can’t walk out of here with this kind of cash. Go ahead and count it. And while you’re counting it, I’m going to call Brad and see if he has any additional questions real quick before I let you go.
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Holy shit…. That is just so disturbing 😳
I hope they get these bastards 😤